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Cotton padding


From: Gerry Embleton
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:03:07 +0200

Dear all

The exchange of info has been most interesting and worthwhile. It is just the sort of constructive brainstorming that may AT TIMES seem trivial but often opens doors to new paths of research. Even seemingly trivial questions and observations can provoke responses from more knowledgeable members. So long as we can exchange views and ideas and LISTEN to each other we may all learn something. One example will suffice. Christian's question about cotton seeds. My first reaction was 'what an irevelant question' - My second (and more intelligent reaction) was 'what an interesting point! I wish I had thought about it - it could be useful when considering how the cotton stuffing was processed. So please let's continue'.

I don't find the mention of buttons to hold up hose worthless of further enquiry I know of two other references, and very clear ones, of buttoned hose and I'd like to know if more exist.

STUFFING... I've examined helmet linings in private collections and some arming caps, all 16th century. The insides were visible on two - one raw wool - one horsehair, one or two felt very softy and springy - and could have been cotton or raw wool. I've read of wool soaked in vinegar (to keep vermin away?) but sadly I've no date for this. Many written references refer to cotton. Regulations are usually written to counter common practices that don't conform to the ideas of the writer. Since cotton was insisted upon I suspect that other materials were in common use. There are always guild-regulations against mal-practice. One can easily imagine unscrupulous contractors stuffing military jacks with almost anything at hand to keep the cost down... (ever was it thus -. and still is!)

We have only a very few surviving examples of padded armour and little idea of their original function, owners' status, or how commonly used they were. There are clues to be found in illustrations and of course texts. ALL sources should be considered... but used with caution of course.

Generalizing about the particular can be very dangerous. We re-enactors don't have the same priorities as medieval soldiers. We don't like sweat soaked jacks that stink and attract vermin. We can't choose the jacks we buy from a highly skilled competitive market. It's sometimes difficult to understand the importance or cost of commonplace objects and to appreciate the enormous specialized skills and experience that went into making them. We are unskilled amateurs groping around in the dark and we should welcome even the tiniest bit of light any friend can give.

More please!
Gerry
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Gerry Embleton - Time Machine AG
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