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ODP: Re: ODP: Re: Subscribing Fabrice Cognot


From: "Tomaszek"
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 08:40:44 +0200

Hi there J

 

Cool (I mean both the title of your work and that you have friends in ARMA Association).

 

Well – to be precise – thanks to that most of the people living in cities were German - provenience (in Poland XV cent. I mean) using as a basis the “German school”  (of sword fight and wrestling) may be reasonable – but it is now just a theory J… but if we analyze even names ofa few guys (“old masters” mentioned by Ott the Jew) we will find that a few of them quite surely were Silesians or Poles…

 

One the other hand we know thanks to different references that general way of using the army (way of fighting in general view) were completely different when compared to Western Europe (but that is something for another conversation J )…

 

 

Thanks for help – in the matter of numbers of treatises – it will be enough – I rather wanted to assure myself that there is generally lack of latin-wroten treatises comparing to “national language” treatises…

 

 

Thanks very much

Sincerely Yours,

T. J

 

 

 

Hi Tom

 

I know several ARMA-PL people - and I consider them friends :)

 

The title of my research is : (in French first) : "l'armement médiéval en Bourgogne : les armes blances : fabrication,typologie, utilisation" ( roughly 'medieval arms in Burgundy : making, typology, use'). It is a natural follow-up of my MA dissertation that you can find here http://perso.wanadoo.fr/f.cognot/report/ (along with a rather average report on the first Dijon HEMAC event in 2002).

 

You are quite lucky to be able to work on such a subject : Poland has nothing to envy to Western Europe in terms of techniques and manuals...as most of the primary sources/masters quoted in several German manuals come from this area. And actually, I always (nearly) thought that there could be very good research done on the topic of these Eastern European Masters (not only technically speaking, but historically as well)

 

My 'martial' research focuses for the moment on Fiore dei Liberi's teachings, and on "le Jeu de la Hache" and other poleaxe-related sources. I only give a look at German masters for fun during my leisure time ;)

 

It will be hard to give a rough percentage for your second question. I'll obviously have to check that out, but the only treatises written in Latin that come to my mind are the I.33, the 'Flos Duellatorum' version of Fiore, and the later Collectanea by Pietro Monte (for the mediaeval-very early renaissance period, that is..).

 

all the best

 

Fab



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