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Re: Wooden buttons


From: whutt-at-free.fr
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:17:19 +0200 (CEST)

I don't pretend to know much about wooden buttons but the museum of London's 
excations have dug up many pewter ones and also some in brass and other copper 
alloys. I cannot agree that pewter was a precious metal, in fact I think it was 
the poor mans silver. Unfortunately that needs a doctoral thesis to back this up 
but I think we over influenced by it's price today. Infact it's very low melting 
point and easy cleaning up mean it was more commonplace than all other metals 
(especially as it contained more lead than today!)

Will Hutt

Quoting Harald Maußner :

> Hi Brent,
> 
> For wooden buttons, I can say that I search rough since one year for
> them.
> Till now, on paintings I have not seen any naked wooden buttons. The
> only
> hint I have is out of the catalog of ste exhibition of Karlsruhe
>  Spätmittelalter am Oberrein). There were wooden button dated at the
> late
> 15. century. But all these buttons have three holes in a line. First I
> asked
> me why three. But than Mike told me, that this is logical because of
> the
> manufacturing- machine. The buttons were made with a pater noster -
> machine.
> So the middle hole was only for fixing them at the machine, the other
> two
> holes ( on the right and left side of the fixinghole) were made for
> sewing
> them on.
> 
> But, because I have not seen naked wooden buttons at paintintgs, I would
> say
> take clothcovered buttons. Pewter buttons are not cummon in my
> opinion.
> Pewter was in my opinion a precious metal, what you can get at the
> goldsmith
> ( look at lot of paintings). So it depends what you want to personate.
> When
> you want to be a noble or a rich man, I would say pewter is o.k., but if
> you
> want to be a rank and file troop, I would not take them.
> 
> Sorry for my bad english, I hope you can read it!
> 
> yours Harry
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brent Hanner 
> To: COSG 
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:39 AM
> Subject: Wooden buttons
> 
> 
> > I am currently working on improving and getting my 1470s kit up to
> the
> > level that I want it to be at.  One of my doublets has wooden
> buttons.
> > I've looked in both Wood and Woodworking in AS and Medieval York  
> and
> > in Dress Accessories from the MoL and they obviously don't have any.
> > Anyone have any references for wooden buttons or should I just
> replace
> > them with pewter.
> >
> > Brent
> > --
> > "Out of each thousand there was chosen a man more notable than all
> the
> > rest for his loyalty, his strength, his noble courage, his breeding
> and
> > his manners."
> >
> > The Book of the Order of Chivalry by Ramon Lull
> >
> >
> >
> >
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